Comments on: Modern platforms and the indie scene: An analysis of the pros and cons http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/ Discussing games Thnikkaman Lacky-style Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:38:28 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: ModifiedXbox http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-33 ModifiedXbox Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:50:39 +0000 http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-33 Nice write-up. Thanks for the imfo. Nice write-up. Thanks for the imfo.

]]> By: Anonymous http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-26 Anonymous Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:15:31 +0000 http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-26 Hmm... great blog about systems and indie development. I wish that the Wii had more outlets for indie developers as opposed to forcing people to hack the system. It's too bad... cause their are lots of really cool things they could do with the advanced motion detection. Hmm… great blog about systems and indie development. I wish that the Wii had more outlets for indie developers as opposed to forcing people to hack the system. It’s too bad… cause their are lots of really cool things they could do with the advanced motion detection.

]]> By: thnikkaman http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-19 thnikkaman Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:21:40 +0000 http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-19 You're spoiling me with sites upon sites! You’re spoiling me with sites upon sites!

]]> By: ax23000 http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-18 ax23000 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 03:23:26 +0000 http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-18 Well, I think the thing of it is flash games are really easy to overlook especially when you compare them to the massive scale of the modern day block buster game. Oh, by the way, if you want a good resource for finding good flash games I'd recommend checking out jayisgames.com every once and a while. Technically it's a 'casual gaming' site, but they cover all sorts of genres including some of the best indie stuff on the PC front. They're where I first heard about Within A Deep Forest, Knytt, flOw, hapland, eyemaze, orisinal and a whole host of other fantastic projects from simple flash games all the way up to full featured downloadable games like Aquaria and Aveyond. Well, I think the thing of it is flash games are really easy to overlook especially when you compare them to the massive scale of the modern day block buster game.

Oh, by the way, if you want a good resource for finding good flash games I’d recommend checking out jayisgames.com every once and a while. Technically it’s a ‘casual gaming’ site, but they cover all sorts of genres including some of the best indie stuff on the PC front.

They’re where I first heard about Within A Deep Forest, Knytt, flOw, hapland, eyemaze, orisinal and a whole host of other fantastic projects from simple flash games all the way up to full featured downloadable games like Aquaria and Aveyond.

]]> By: thnikkaman http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-17 thnikkaman Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:11:52 +0000 http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-17 That is indeed a very valid point which bring up. Flash games are indeed a segment which I unfortunately ignored, as it has become a really viable area recently for precisely the reasons you state. Like you said, a lot of the economic things need to be worked out, but once they are, Flash games could very well be a force to be reckoned with. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I can't believe I forgot about them. That is indeed a very valid point which bring up. Flash games are indeed a segment which I unfortunately ignored, as it has become a really viable area recently for precisely the reasons you state. Like you said, a lot of the economic things need to be worked out, but once they are, Flash games could very well be a force to be reckoned with. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I can’t believe I forgot about them.

]]> By: ax23000 http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-15 ax23000 Sat, 09 Feb 2008 08:19:14 +0000 http://thnikkaman.wordpress.com/2008/01/19/modern-platforms-and-the-indie-scene-an-analysis-of-the-pros-and-cons/#comment-15 Yup, it's me from over at Gamespot. Just thought I'd give your serious blog a look and boy am I glad I did. This is a fantastic piece on the indi gaming scene, which is an area of gaming I've become incredibly interested over the past several years. There is one platform you haven't really considered here--net games. Flash is obviously the big platform here. This might technically be considered a sub-platform under PC, but I'd point out that flash games can work on a console like the Wii also (in fact some even work better on the Wii then the PC). Flash games have obvious technical limitations, but smart developers manage to work around those limitations to create some really fantastic games. And those limitations also work in favor of the platform as they level the hardware issues that can plague a truly downloadable game. Basically any computer with a net connection can handle most flash games out there. The main issue with the flash platform, as with most of the indie scene, has to do with revenue streams. Most flash games are supported by advertising of some sort. And a good deal are given away for free. I've seen interesting experiments though. The Caverns of Hamerfest--http://www.hfest.net/index.html--for example is a game modeled after Bubble Bobble. You can play the game as often as you like for free, but after five lives you have to reset your game so that you loose all your progress and items. In order to keep playing you have to pay for credits. I have no idea what the financial success of the game has been, but it is very well done and an interesting example of experimentation. Anywho, just thought I'd throw that out there ;-) Keep up the great posts. Yup, it’s me from over at Gamespot. Just thought I’d give your serious blog a look and boy am I glad I did. This is a fantastic piece on the indi gaming scene, which is an area of gaming I’ve become incredibly interested over the past several years.

There is one platform you haven’t really considered here–net games. Flash is obviously the big platform here. This might technically be considered a sub-platform under PC, but I’d point out that flash games can work on a console like the Wii also (in fact some even work better on the Wii then the PC).

Flash games have obvious technical limitations, but smart developers manage to work around those limitations to create some really fantastic games. And those limitations also work in favor of the platform as they level the hardware issues that can plague a truly downloadable game. Basically any computer with a net connection can handle most flash games out there.

The main issue with the flash platform, as with most of the indie scene, has to do with revenue streams. Most flash games are supported by advertising of some sort. And a good deal are given away for free. I’ve seen interesting experiments though. The Caverns of Hamerfest–http://www.hfest.net/index.html–for example is a game modeled after Bubble Bobble. You can play the game as often as you like for free, but after five lives you have to reset your game so that you loose all your progress and items. In order to keep playing you have to pay for credits. I have no idea what the financial success of the game has been, but it is very well done and an interesting example of experimentation.

Anywho, just thought I’d throw that out there ;-) Keep up the great posts.

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